Cleaning Up. Leadership in an Age of Climate Change
Cleaning Up. Leadership in an Age of Climate Change
Once a week, Michael Liebreich and Baroness Bryony Worthington sit down with a leader in clean energy, mobility, climate finance or sustainable development. These in-depth interviews are illuminating and inspiring, and with a catalogue of nearly 200 episodes, there are few better guides to the net-zero transition.
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Cleaning Up

Once a week, Michael Liebreich and Baroness Bryony Worthington sit down with a leader in clean energy, mobility, climate finance or sustainable development.

These in-depth interviews are illuminating and inspiring, and with a catalogue of nearly 200 episodes, there are few better guides to the net-zero transition.

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Is There A Future Without Oil & Gas? Ep214: Ben van Beurden
June 25, 2025

Is There A Future Without Oil & Gas? Ep214: Ben van Beurden

Oil and gas companies lie at the heart of the energy transition. To some, they are heroes, continuing to power human progress despite all the odds. To some, they are villains, responsible for the climate change that is devast...
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Deforestation, Oil and Aviation Fuels: A Brazilian Take on the Climate Emergency | Ep213: Thelma Krug
June 18, 2025

Deforestation, Oil and Aviation Fuels: A Brazilian Take on the Climate Emergency | Ep213: Thelma Krug

What happens if the Amazon rainforest stops absorbing carbon and starts releasing it? Do we need geoengineering to help us cool an overheating planet? And how can developing countries balance environmental preservation with e...
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⁠Hydrogen Subsidies, Clean Power & Fixing Spain's Blackouts | Ep212: EU Commissioner Dan Jørgensen
June 11, 2025

⁠Hydrogen Subsidies, Clean Power & Fixing Spain's Blackouts | Ep212: EU Commissioner Dan Jørgensen

What will it take to finally wean Europe off Russian gas? Can renewables help with grid stability? And is the EU making a mistake subsidising hydrogen? This week on Cleaning Up, Michael Liebreich sits down with EU Energy and ...
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Renewables Are Here To Stay. Get Over It. | Ep211: Antonio Cammisecra
June 4, 2025

Renewables Are Here To Stay. Get Over It. | Ep211: Antonio Cammisecra

The world's electricity system is transforming: We're integrating more and more variable renewables. Fossil plants are running fewer hours. Demand is growing everywhere, including in the developed world, as we electrify trans...
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Is The Tide Turning On Hydrogen? Ep210: Andrew Forrest
May 28, 2025

Is The Tide Turning On Hydrogen? Ep210: Andrew Forrest

Billionaire iron magnate Andrew Forrest believes he's on the cusp of a breakthrough to decarbonise shipping and heavy industry using hydrogen. As the Executive Chairman of the Fortescue, one of the world's largest iron ore co...
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Reviews

Best podcast out there

"This is my favourite podcast ! Strikes a great balance between subject knowledge and big picture views, easy to follow for non-energy experts. What I love most is the combination of high profile inte…"

-gruff-a-lo- | May 27, 2022

Informative, accessible and optimistic

"Sensible, intelligent and (usually) entertaining people engaged in finding solutions to the climate crisis we have got ourselves into. A must listen for the climate catastrophists (if that’s a thing?)"

Mattyhoose | June 9, 2022

Mandatory listening for those in cleantech

"Great podcast with superb guests, who get an incisive grilling. More please!"

Finlay McWin | June 20, 2023

The best show for anyone with an interest in climate change

"Michael and his guests (both as hosts and regular guests) offer incredible insight and cover a huge range of topics in this hugely important field. Michael is firm in his beliefs and isn’t afraid to …"

cbfoster123 | Dec. 11, 2023

Very good and important show

"This show is fantastic and should be much more popular and mainstream so that everyone can discuss the energy transition with knowledge rather than emotion"

EddieRosie | July 21, 2024

Essential listening

"Clarifying and comprehensive. Has removed much confusion around environmental and sustains topics for me."

AndrewDSmith00 | Jan. 28, 2025

Insightful and broad ranging podcast

"This podcast is hugely insightful in cutting through some of the noise and demystifying the energy transition. It covers a range of topics from policy to technology and also as far as human behaviour…"

T H M P | Dec. 5, 2024

Always interesting and well presented

"Proper discussions that get to the heart of the biggest issue of our time. Unafraid to debate and no bull."

Them Changes first single | Feb. 20, 2025
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