Cleaning Up. Leadership in an Age of Climate Change
Cleaning Up. Leadership in an Age of Climate Change
Once a week, Michael Liebreich and Baroness Bryony Worthington sit down with a leader in clean energy, mobility, climate finance or sustainable development. These in-depth interviews are illuminating and inspiring, and with a catalogue of nearly 200 episodes, there are few better guides to the net-zero transition.
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Cleaning Up

Once a week, Michael Liebreich and Baroness Bryony Worthington sit down with a leader in clean energy, mobility, climate finance or sustainable development.

These in-depth interviews are illuminating and inspiring, and with a catalogue of nearly 200 episodes, there are few better guides to the net-zero transition.

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Renewables Are Here To Stay. Get Over It. | Ep211: Antonio Cammisecra
June 4, 2025

Renewables Are Here To Stay. Get Over It. | Ep211: Antonio Cammisecra

The world's electricity system is transforming: We're integrating more and more variable renewables. Fossil plants are running fewer hours. Demand is growing everywhere, including in the developed world, as we electrify trans...
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Is The Tide Turning On Hydrogen? Ep210: Andrew Forrest
May 28, 2025

Is The Tide Turning On Hydrogen? Ep210: Andrew Forrest

Billionaire iron magnate Andrew Forrest believes he's on the cusp of a breakthrough to decarbonise shipping and heavy industry using hydrogen. As the Executive Chairman of the Fortescue, one of the world's largest iron ore co...
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Bond Vigilantes, Game Theory, And Why The US Shouldn’t Go It Alone - Ep209: Mohamed El-Erian
May 21, 2025

Bond Vigilantes, Game Theory, And Why The US Shouldn’t Go It Alone - Ep209: Mohamed El-Erian

Have the bond markets become a new form of global governance? Are we witnessing the end of US economic exceptionalism? And how does game theory relate to cooperation on net-zero? This week on Cleaning Up, Bryony Worthington s...
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Can You Run a Grid Entirely On Renewables? Ep208: Anders Lindberg
May 14, 2025

Can You Run a Grid Entirely On Renewables? Ep208: Anders Lindberg

Can You Run A Grid Without Fossil Fuels? "Yes," says Anders Lindberg, President of Energy and Executive VP at Wärtsilä, on this week's episode of Cleaning Up. It'll just cost €65 trillion extra by 2050. Anders' team at Wärtsi...
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Is Geothermal The Future For Oil & Gas? Ep207: Jamie Beard
May 7, 2025

Is Geothermal The Future For Oil & Gas? Ep207: Jamie Beard

Geothermal seems to have found new favour under Donald Trump's presidency, but can it ever live up to its potential? Will the oil and gas industry reinvent itself before becoming obsolete? And how might geothermal energy chan...
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Reviews

Best podcast out there

"This is my favourite podcast ! Strikes a great balance between subject knowledge and big picture views, easy to follow for non-energy experts. What I love most is the combination of high profile inte…"

-gruff-a-lo- | May 27, 2022

Informative, accessible and optimistic

"Sensible, intelligent and (usually) entertaining people engaged in finding solutions to the climate crisis we have got ourselves into. A must listen for the climate catastrophists (if that’s a thing?)"

Mattyhoose | June 9, 2022

Mandatory listening for those in cleantech

"Great podcast with superb guests, who get an incisive grilling. More please!"

Finlay McWin | June 20, 2023

The best show for anyone with an interest in climate change

"Michael and his guests (both as hosts and regular guests) offer incredible insight and cover a huge range of topics in this hugely important field. Michael is firm in his beliefs and isn’t afraid to …"

cbfoster123 | Dec. 11, 2023

Very good and important show

"This show is fantastic and should be much more popular and mainstream so that everyone can discuss the energy transition with knowledge rather than emotion"

EddieRosie | July 21, 2024

Essential listening

"Clarifying and comprehensive. Has removed much confusion around environmental and sustains topics for me."

AndrewDSmith00 | Jan. 28, 2025

Insightful and broad ranging podcast

"This podcast is hugely insightful in cutting through some of the noise and demystifying the energy transition. It covers a range of topics from policy to technology and also as far as human behaviour…"

T H M P | Dec. 5, 2024

Always interesting and well presented

"Proper discussions that get to the heart of the biggest issue of our time. Unafraid to debate and no bull."

Them Changes first single | Feb. 20, 2025
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