Cleaning Up. Leadership in an Age of Climate Change
Cleaning Up. Leadership in an Age of Climate Change
Once a week, Michael Liebreich and Baroness Bryony Worthington sit down with a leader in clean energy, mobility, climate finance or sustain…
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Cleaning Up

Once a week, Michael Liebreich and Baroness Bryony Worthington sit down with a leader in clean energy, mobility, climate finance or sustainable development.

These in-depth interviews are illuminating and inspiring, and with a catalogue of nearly 200 episodes, there are few better guides to the net-zero transition.

Recent Episodes

March 19, 2025

Can Europe Survive the Transition To Renewables? Ep201: Nikos Tsafos

How does Europe get cheap energy again? Are climate goals at odds with the need to remain economically competitive? Are we about to see an empowered and emboldened Europe, ready to take on China and the US? Barely five years ...
March 12, 2025

Making America Dumb Again: The Stakes of Slashing Climate Science — Ep200: Ralph Keeling & Ray Weiss

As the U.S. swings a budgetary axe at the federal government, one of the biggest casualties is climate science. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) faces a brutal 20% workforce reduction—jeopardizing cr...
March 5, 2025

EVs & Heat Pumps: The Real Alternatives for Germany — Ep199: Patrick Graichen

In February, Germany elected a new government. Friedrich Merz emerged as the new leader, but what are his energy and climate policies, and will Germany remain a climate leader in Europe and beyond? Joining Cleaning Up this we...
Feb. 26, 2025

⁠The Future of Clean Tech Under Trump — Ep198: Jigar Shah

How can the U.S. government bridge the gap between clean energy innovation and large-scale deployment? Will the Trump administration accelerate progress or put up roadblocks for clean tech? And how can the U.S. stay competiti...
Feb. 19, 2025

Confessions of a 'Failed' Climate Activist — Ep197: Kumi Naidoo

How can climate activists be more successful in 2025? And where have they gone wrong? Kumi Naidoo has a storied career as an activist. At just 15 years old, he started out as an anti-apartheid campaigner and organiser in Sout...

Reviews

Best podcast out there

"This is my favourite podcast ! Strikes a great balance between subject knowledge and big picture views, easy to follow for non-energy experts. What I love most is the combination of high profile inte…"

-gruff-a-lo- | May 27, 2022

Informative, accessible and optimistic

"Sensible, intelligent and (usually) entertaining people engaged in finding solutions to the climate crisis we have got ourselves into. A must listen for the climate catastrophists (if that’s a thing?)"

Mattyhoose | June 9, 2022

Mandatory listening for those in cleantech

"Great podcast with superb guests, who get an incisive grilling. More please!"

Finlay McWin | June 20, 2023

The best show for anyone with an interest in climate change

"Michael and his guests (both as hosts and regular guests) offer incredible insight and cover a huge range of topics in this hugely important field. Michael is firm in his beliefs and isn’t afraid to …"

cbfoster123 | Dec. 11, 2023

Very good and important show

"This show is fantastic and should be much more popular and mainstream so that everyone can discuss the energy transition with knowledge rather than emotion"

EddieRosie | July 21, 2024

Essential listening

"Clarifying and comprehensive. Has removed much confusion around environmental and sustains topics for me."

AndrewDSmith00 | Jan. 28, 2025

Insightful and broad ranging podcast

"This podcast is hugely insightful in cutting through some of the noise and demystifying the energy transition. It covers a range of topics from policy to technology and also as far as human behaviour…"

T H M P | Dec. 5, 2024

Always interesting and well presented

"Proper discussions that get to the heart of the biggest issue of our time. Unafraid to debate and no bull."

Them Changes first single | Feb. 20, 2025