Cleaning Up. Leadership in an Age of Climate Change

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April 9, 2025

We Built a Solar System That's Saving Babies’ Lives — Ep204: Project …

In Sierra Leone, a 20-minute power cut can be the difference between life and death for newborn babies. In 2013, an extraordinary doctor called Dr Niall Conroy set up a neonatal intensive care unit at the Bo Government Hospit...

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April 2, 2025

Google's Climate Tightrope: AI Innovation vs Emissions | Ep203: Kate …

Google has one of the most ambitious climate targets in the tech world, but what happens if it falls short of its goals? How does the company balance innovation with environmental responsibility? And can AI really help reduce...

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March 26, 2025

Net Zero Isn’t Impossible, It’s The Key To UK Prosperity — Ep202: Emm…

The UK is an extraordinary case study in how to cut greenhouse gas pollution successfully. Since 1990, the country has more than halved its greenhouse gas emissions, while the economy has grown by over 80%. The Climate Change...

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March 19, 2025

Can Europe Survive the Transition To Renewables? Ep201: Nikos Tsafos

How does Europe get cheap energy again? Are climate goals at odds with the need to remain economically competitive? Are we about to see an empowered and emboldened Europe, ready to take on China and the US? Barely five years ...

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March 12, 2025

Making America Dumb Again: The Stakes of Slashing Climate Science — E…

As the U.S. swings a budgetary axe at the federal government, one of the biggest casualties is climate science. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) faces a brutal 20% workforce reduction—jeopardizing cr...

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March 5, 2025

EVs & Heat Pumps: The Real Alternatives for Germany — Ep199: Patrick …

In February, Germany elected a new government. Friedrich Merz emerged as the new leader, but what are his energy and climate policies, and will Germany remain a climate leader in Europe and beyond? Joining Cleaning Up this we...

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Feb. 26, 2025

⁠The Future of Clean Tech Under Trump — Ep198: Jigar Shah

How can the U.S. government bridge the gap between clean energy innovation and large-scale deployment? Will the Trump administration accelerate progress or put up roadblocks for clean tech? And how can the U.S. stay competiti...

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Feb. 19, 2025

Confessions of a 'Failed' Climate Activist — Ep197: Kumi Naidoo

How can climate activists be more successful in 2025? And where have they gone wrong? Kumi Naidoo has a storied career as an activist. At just 15 years old, he started out as an anti-apartheid campaigner and organiser in Sout...

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Feb. 12, 2025

A Clean Energy Playbook For The Global South — Ep196: Lucy Heintz

The global south needs to build out vast amounts of clean energy, and requires hundreds of billions of dollars annually to do. And yet, only a fraction of the investment going into clean energy and the net-zero transition is ...

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Feb. 5, 2025

Are Big Investors Abandoning Climate Progress? Ep195: David Blood

Just a few short years ago, sustainable finance and sustainable investing were all the rage. The Glasgow Financial Alliance For Net Zero (GFANZ) boasted financial players controlling $140 trillion. Things have not been quite ...

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Jan. 29, 2025

First Cars, Now Planes: Is The Future of Flying Electric? Ep194: Ande…

Aviation accounts for around 2-3% of global emissions, and is showing no sign of decreasing. There has been a lot of focus on replacement fuels, but no real paradigm shift in the industry. Anders Forslund has a plan to change...

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Jan. 22, 2025

Audioblog 14: Generative AI — The Power and the Glory

Will AI be a disaster for the climate, or a saviour in disguise? How is AI reshaping power needs around the world? And does a lack of clean electricity spell the end of the AI dream, or a new round of fossil-fuel reliant data...

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Jan. 15, 2025

Five Years In, How Has The Bezos Earth Fund Used Its Billions? Ep192:…

How can $10 billion be spent most effectively to address the climate and nature crises? What role can philanthropy play in driving systemic change? And how can new technologies like AI be leveraged to accelerate climate solut...

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Jan. 8, 2025

Petrostate USA vs Electrostate China — Place Your Bets | Ep191

Happy New Year and welcome to Season 14 of Cleaning Up. From the future of nuclear to growing tensions between China and the USA, we're off with a bang with a conversation between hosts Michael Liebreich and Bryony Worthingto...

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Jan. 1, 2025

Lifting the Curtain on Climate Denial — Naomi Oreskes — Cleaning Up R…

Happy New Year from all of us here at Cleaning Up. This week we’re bringing you one from our archive of almost 200 episodes. It’s a conversation Bryony Worthington had with Naomi Oreskes in October 2023, her very first episo...

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Dec. 25, 2024

Cleaning Up Redux: The Einstein of Energy Efficiency - Amory Lovins

Hello, I’m Michael Liebreich, and this is Cleaning Up. I hope you are having a good break over the holiday season, and getting to spend some quality time with your family. I’m in Switzerland, where it has just snowed about a ...

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Dec. 18, 2024

Have We Lost The Climate Argument? Ep190: Lord Adair Turner

Are we losing the argument that climate change requires action and investment? Can we balance the need for affordable energy with the costs of decarbonizing hard-to-abate sectors like steel, cement and aviation? And how can w...

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Dec. 11, 2024

How Climate Philanthropy Spends Its Billions | Ep189: Greg De Temmerm…

Climate philanthropies are playing an increasingly important role in funding climate action. In 2023, an estimated $9-16 billion was spent by philanthropies on programs to mitigate climate change. But how do they choose how t...

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Dec. 4, 2024

Is The International Order Too Weak To Stop Climate Change? Ep188: Ja…

What was achieved at COP29 in Baku, Azerbaijan? Where will the promised $300 billion come from, and how will it be spent? And what reforms are needed to make the COP process more effective and impactful? This week, host Micha...

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Nov. 27, 2024

⁠Can Exponential Growth Save a Finite Planet? Ep187: Azeem Azhar

As we race towards a future powered by AI and data centres, how will the insatiable demand for energy impact the environment? With the richest companies ploughing billions into energy generation, might there be some unexpecte...

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Nov. 20, 2024

Is It Ever OK to Promote Fossil Fuels? Ep186: Rory Sutherland

How can behavioural science and psychology be leveraged to drive meaningful change around climate action? What unintended consequences might arise from heavy-handed government mandates versus more subtle interventions? And in...

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Nov. 13, 2024

Is Trump's Victory A Win For China? Ep185: Professor Qi Ye

Is China's lead in clean technologies insurmountable? How will the Trump presidency shape relations with China? And when will China's emissions peak? Fatih Birol, head of the International Energy Agency, has said that 'almost...

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Nov. 11, 2024

How Trump & Musk Will Reshape US Climate Action — Michael Liebreich &…

How will the Trump administration's policies impact the clean energy transition in the United States? What will be Elon Musk's role in shaping climate policy? And what are the geopolitical implications of the US withdrawing f...

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Nov. 6, 2024

The Biggest, Dirtiest Secret of the Energy Industry — Ep184: Jonathan…

Could we save billions by simply reducing energy waste? How can we power the vast, energy-hungry growth of AI without sacrificing climate goals? And is Europe doomed to high energy costs and deindustrialisation? This week on ...

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